Comments on: Grief Is Horrible – But It’s Supposed to Be. We Have to Feel a Loss Before We Can Grow Through It

By: KateL

KateL — Thu, 13 Jun 2024 16:23:24 +0000

In reply to Birdsong.

Me neither, Birdsong. At the end of my long “career” as a mental patient, I repeatedly sought out trauma therapy and was repeatedly denied it (not that it would have made much difference).
One thing I learned during that time is that mental health professionals tend to be quite incapable of acknowledging that a patient’s principle/most debilitating trauma is how they were treated by mental health professionals. They must know how common it is for patients to have treatment-induced trauma, but they seem unwilling or unable to acknowledge it, let alone treat it.

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By: Birdsong

Birdsong — Fri, 07 Jun 2024 00:37:08 +0000

In reply to No-one.

Thank you, No-one 🙂

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By: No-one

No-one — Thu, 06 Jun 2024 07:30:08 +0000

In reply to Birdsong.

Amen Birdsong. Lovely name there!

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By: Birdsong

Birdsong — Wed, 05 Jun 2024 20:01:08 +0000

In reply to No-one.

“They support the person to go through it [grief] rather than suppressing it chronically with drugs. Perhaps we should start to recognize that actually, all mental health is like this. What any sufferer really needs to heal is support, a feeling of security, affection, and the capacity to feel able to be who they really are.”

YES!!!

Healing shouldn’t mean having to seek out licensed drug pushers or emotional prostitutes.

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By: No-one

No-one — Wed, 05 Jun 2024 14:34:06 +0000

Blame the psychiatrist for encouraging us all to believe that grief is pathological, when it’s the only process that allows us to recover from a loss, and to prevent its flowering is to prevent our healing. Same too with a psychosis I would contend, because it has a beginning, middle and an end if you understand it, as many now are, as evidenced, for example, by the world beating results of the Finland approach to psychosis which has an 80% perminant remission rate for first episode psychotics, compared to the average 70% permanent DISABILITY in the US and UK. What do they do differently? They support the person to go through it rather then suppressing it chronically with drugs. Perhaps we should start to recognize that actually, all mental health is like this. What any sufferer really needs to heal is support, a feeling of security, affection, and the capacity to feel able to be who they are. But in this society we’ve lost the art of supporting one another, we’ve lost the art of social affection, and we do not have a society that accepts us as we are, particularly if we are not working or have a mental health diagnosis. So all in all, society makes it almost impossible to heal.

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By: Birdsong

Birdsong — Tue, 04 Jun 2024 08:14:36 +0000

In reply to KateL.

Therapy for therapy didn’t work for me.

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By: KateL

KateL — Tue, 04 Jun 2024 03:39:22 +0000

But what to do with the grief of losing 35 years to the lies of the mental health system? Winding up disabled in the prime of life from ECT and polypharmacy, and realizing that one will never have a career, a partner, a home, a place in the world? This grief goes unacknowledged. It’s not okay to talk about it in “polite company” (whatever that term actually means). We are alone with our grief. There are no support groups for this. There’s no place for this grief. I am isolated and afraid and don’t see a way out.

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By: Someone Else

Someone Else — Tue, 04 Jun 2024 01:19:16 +0000

As ‘just an American girl,’ who has done her homework, and has common sense, “I have learned that the capacity to feel loss and grief constitutes nothing less than the foundation of all mental health, from infancy through to old age. Whatever life stage we are in, the inability to experience loss and to mourn it means we remain fixed where we are, unable to develop, desperately trying to hold on to whoever or whatever it is that is gone.”

As one who was attacked by psychology and psychiatry, way back in late 2001. Because on the morning of 9/11/2001, my innocent child was denied a baptism three times, by what turned out to be, a systemic child abusing and rape covering up ELCA Russian pastor. Which, at the time, I must confess, I did not know.

“It might be a person, a relationship or a dream that has died, but if we scroll or drug or literally run away from our feelings, the result is the same: we’re trapped. Without loss, without grief, there can be no growth.”

Yet denial of the abuse of one’s child does seem to be a systemic, child abuse covering up aspect, of all of the scientific fraud based DSM “bible” billers, who can not actually even honestly bill to help child abuse survivors, nor their legitimately concerned mothers.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/your-child-does-not-have-bipolar-disorder/201402/dsm-5-and-child-neglect-and-abuse-1
https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2019/01/23/18820633.php
https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/04/heal-for-life/

I agree, once the medical evidence of the abuse of my innocent child was handed over, sadly, it was almost a relief. “The truth will set you free.” At least then I understood why my former pastor wanted to have his psychology “partner” murder me, via the medically known, anticholinergic toxidrome poisonings … that psychiatry systemically utilizes against way too many of their innocent “patients.”

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