Comments on: Types of Trauma Exposures Predict Specific Psychosis Symptoms

Comments on: Types of Trauma Exposures Predict Specific Psychosis Symptoms https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/ Science, Psychiatry & Social Justice Thu, 13 Jun 2024 19:36:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.3 By: Birdsong https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-283196 Thu, 13 Jun 2024 19:36:14 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-283196 In reply to Joanna Badura.

Absolutely. There’s only so much a person can take.

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]]> By: Lisa Giordano https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-283191 Thu, 13 Jun 2024 18:45:51 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-283191 In reply to RL.

Yep. There’s most definitely a (woefully under-researched) phenomenon called, “Covid Psychosis.” Just stands to reason that if the brain is infected and inflamed in anyway (viral, bacterial, parasitic, etc.), you’re likely to have a serious psych reaction.

]]> By: Lisa Giordano https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-283190 Thu, 13 Jun 2024 18:39:41 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-283190 In reply to Birdsong.

“And feeling disempowered (unsafe) is probably what causes most people to drift into psychosis in the first place.”

Bingo.

]]> By: Birdsong https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-283171 Thu, 13 Jun 2024 16:02:35 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-283171 In reply to Birdsong.

CORRECTION: …psychosis is a disconnection from objective reality.

]]> By: Joanna Badura https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-283127 Thu, 13 Jun 2024 06:27:22 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-283127 In reply to Birdsong.

I agree with you, Birdsong. I think that the feeling of deep humiliation can also trigger psychosis.

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]]> By: Birdsong https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-283087 Wed, 12 Jun 2024 16:43:05 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-283087 In reply to Birdsong.

And even if the fear that brings on psychosis seems unwarranted to the observer, it most likely stems from some hidden fear based in reality.

]]> By: Birdsong https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-283084 Wed, 12 Jun 2024 16:13:12 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-283084 In reply to Lina.

Lina, I agree with Joanna regarding personality styles, as thinking that way plays into the prejudicial concept of so-called ‘personality disorders’.

]]> By: Birdsong https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-283083 Wed, 12 Jun 2024 16:06:07 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-283083 In reply to Joanna Badura.

Absolutely, Joanna. Psychosis is the mind’s way of protecting itself.

]]> By: Birdsong https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-283082 Wed, 12 Jun 2024 16:02:45 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-283082 In reply to Joanna Badura.

“I was afraid of angering the person whose behavior traumatized me.”

I think living extreme fear—fear that is warranted—is what brings on most psychotic states.

]]> By: David Busch https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-283068 Wed, 12 Jun 2024 12:44:51 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-283068 In reply to Birdsong.

Hi Birdsong. So my program takes the therapist out of the equation and empowers the user. You decide what to work on and how deep you want to go, and when to stop. The program aids you in looking for those hurt painful emotions, but only when you chose to. You are welcome to try it.

]]> By: No-one https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-283048 Wed, 12 Jun 2024 07:33:03 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-283048 They aren’t symptoms: they are creative communications from The Mother, which is our feelings, our nature. Ordinarily they express themselves through the ordinary socially conditioned channels of thought and conditioned action, and they all call themselves ‘me’ even though they are very different, for example one being angry, one yearning for something beyond all this, one being lustful, one being envious energies, and they negotiate with the brain through words and physical action in order to get their needs realized, their needs being beyond words and beyond the limits of social conditioning. Invariably they have to make do with social palliatives to thir real needs and when the frustrated needs pile up, and the trauma of social experience exaccerbates and exaggerates and distorts and perverts their needs, their needs can no longer be expressed through the socially conditioned avenues of thought and conditioned life activity, so they build up and express themselves involntarily through imaginative form. Yes, they play tricks on the brain and create dillusions, but this is not pathalogical: it’s an emergency reorganization of psychological existence in order to prevent the complex truth of being from uncontrollably expressing itself to the brain, which would destroy the brain out of irredemable shock, and instead to create a different, illusory reality thereby creating the possibility of self-healing through this emergency reconfigeration of reality. But delusion isn’t necessary if the brain understands what’s going on, which means observe and understand, not interpret, and then the brain can allow the free creative movements of spirit. This turns, say, a paranoid psychosis into something more remeniscent of a mescaline or mushroom trip, or a spiritual experience, or an adventure into consciousness. And then this consciousness can liberate itself and tell the brain what it is. And it is the whole consciousness of humanity, which is part of the whole consciousness of the Earth (Mother) and sky (Father), and we are the whole universe in me, and therefore the Universe can reveal itself to all and speak to all. We can all have universal cosmic consciousness if we realize we are the Universe and the easiest way to do that is to become Mother Nature. Just play with your dogs till you become dogs: just play with your children till you become children. Just take every psychadelic drug you can like your life depended on it: anything to get out of that factory consciousness and into the infinity of cosmic, colourful, powerful existence. Or get a McJob. Or become successful, i.e. a happy self-fattening computer brained pig. So what if we go mad trying? They call me psychotic but we all know it is an insane society that diagnosed me. Do we all know what a psychosis is? You do now because the psychosis told you. And by the way, don’t judge vices. It’s Mother Nature who sometimes needs a cigarrette and a glass of wine. It’s Mother Nature that sometimes needs to check out on smack, all sunk in a door way. We’ve been living at her expense you know. She’s exhausted. No wonder she might check out from time to time. We checked out on her after all.

]]> By: Joanna Badura https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-283003 Tue, 11 Jun 2024 21:46:30 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-283003 In reply to Lina.

Lina, I don’t think personality styles determine the type of mental health issues one can have. The same person can respond in a different way to difficult or traumatizing situations depending on all kinds of factors. At the age of 27 I was very depressed when someone I loved ended contact with me; at the age of 32 I became psychotic when I felt rejected by someone I loved; later I never became psychotic again, though I faced many difficult situations.

Moreover, we can have various mental health issues at the same time, e.g. I sometimes had mania when I was psychotic.

]]> By: Joanna Badura https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-283001 Tue, 11 Jun 2024 21:36:53 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-283001 In reply to Birdsong.

I agree with you, Birdsong. Psychosis is not negative in itself. It can be a reaction to an unbearable situation.

]]> By: Birdsong https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-282998 Tue, 11 Jun 2024 20:31:24 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-282998 In reply to Lina.

Lina, I agree 100% that grieving can avert psychosis, but I see psychosis as more adaptive than pathological.

]]> By: Birdsong https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-282995 Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:54:31 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-282995 In reply to Lina.

…and ‘transference’ (which usually leads to more feelings of helplessness) creates yet another trauma that rarely gets mentioned: THERAPY TRAUMA

]]> By: Birdsong https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-282990 Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:13:33 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-282990 In reply to Lina.

“Typically, by taking away the expertise to find a way through the crisis away from the hurt person, psychotherapy is often rather a means of blocking the natural capability of grieving harm and loss in a client. It thus adds to the deterioration of the psychological health of the person instead of helping to recover from it.”

I think this speaks to how much the power imbalance in psychotherapy (can) insidiously disempower clients to one extent or another. And feeling disempowered (unsafe) is probably what causes most people to drift into psychosis in the first place.

The psychotherapy set-up is crazy: DSM labels, power imbalance, and a therapist’s agenda together (can) foster the unhealthy relational dynamic known as infantilization (unreasonable dependency) which imo is another form of psychosis (descent into unreality).

]]> By: Birdsong https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-282909 Tue, 11 Jun 2024 00:07:21 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-282909 In reply to Joanna Badura.

“Power dynamics are crucially important and feeling powerless is one of the most terrifying experiences.”

I can vouch for that. And so is not being believed by the people whose job it is to protect you.

Both of these things were trauma on top of trauma that drove me over the edge.

]]> By: No-one https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-282901 Mon, 10 Jun 2024 22:02:14 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-282901 You can’t destroy the world with the songs of black children. But it is nature who shoots the world with black songs. Covid was her creation to make you use less oil, as was inflation, as was Russia, Ukraine, and so was the Israeli division between you and Saudi Arabia, anything to keep your greedy mits off that black oil. You may have plundered Iraq if you hadn’t already done so. Now they isolate you with obviously evil leaders who talk of America first or Brexit or building other walls and then they isolate you and therethrough possess you and cannibalize you. The rich will pitch you against each other and then stimulate mutual destruction and desert you. They have the wealth to abandon for better climes, but the Earth won’t maintain them. She goes or they go, and with her goes the truth. Black oil we drink you. Eclipse>No-One. Zero. I am that.

]]> By: No-one https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-282900 Mon, 10 Jun 2024 21:53:41 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-282900 I can’t stop writing and igniting because I was being torn apart, the walls were balking, and then the whole Universe appeared within but I was nothing at all besides it. And I want to curl up into a foetal position and then explode like a nuclear bomb, as we all do. That is the force of nature through the form of the father, the mind, which we try and plot out with thought. Mind is beyond thought and is blue. Mother is green. I want to turn pitch black and flood existence like an oil slick. She cried with all the agony of the Universe, and then the sky cracked like an egg. It shattered into glass daggers the thickness and weight of a judges hammer slamming down on your world. These are your black knives glittering under the black sun you created. The golden sun burns the black sun whose rays are killing lines destroying the Universe. Can you see the human being screeching through the headlines, deadlines, killing lines.

]]> By: Joanna Badura https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/types-of-trauma-exposures-predict-specific-psychosis-symptoms/#comment-282888 Mon, 10 Jun 2024 19:00:13 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256914#comment-282888 In reply to Franklin.

I don’t think that one can say that “clinical psychosis” is linked to insufficient communication faculties. I have communication faculties on a very high level. When I experienced severe psychosis, I was in a situation where I could not openly talk about my feelings and experiences. Not because I was lacking communication skills, but because I was afraid of angering the person whose behaviour traumatized me. Power dynamics are crucially important and feeling powerless is one of the most terrifying experiences.

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