Comments on: Ending the Fear-Driven Cycle in Suicidal Care https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/ending-the-fear-driven-cycle-in-suicidal-care/ Science, Psychiatry & Social Justice Sat, 08 Jun 2024 03:53:49 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.3 By: Laura https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/ending-the-fear-driven-cycle-in-suicidal-care/#comment-282722 Sat, 08 Jun 2024 03:53:49 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256885#comment-282722 YASSSS! In all seriousness, I do believe that much money is being made when every mention of suicide gets escalated to a crisis and the result is permanent psych patients.

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By: Damink https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/ending-the-fear-driven-cycle-in-suicidal-care/#comment-282548 Wed, 05 Jun 2024 16:19:48 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256885#comment-282548 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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By: Laura https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/ending-the-fear-driven-cycle-in-suicidal-care/#comment-282224 Sat, 01 Jun 2024 22:00:55 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256885#comment-282224 Think of the MILLIONS of dollars made off of these involuntary hospitalizations. Psych ERs are full of the indigent. BUT if you convince the population that they should call this number when the feel like they are having a “psychiatric emergency” you’ll end up with people who can pay the bills – bills that will most certainly be over $1000 even if they only spend one night held captive. They are creating psych patients with great insurance. Also, those forced into involuntary admissions will most likely leave on multiple meds, be forced into PHPs, IOPs and other day programs that insurance can bill for egregious amounts. This is topical for me right now because I’m looking at my Blue Cross statement for a PHP that was basically daycare for adults- six hours of coloring, snacks and gameplaying around a depressing conference table. Blue Cross shelled out over $2000/day for 10 days of this. THINK OF THE MONEY TO BE MADE!

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By: KateL https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/ending-the-fear-driven-cycle-in-suicidal-care/#comment-282209 Sat, 01 Jun 2024 18:38:08 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256885#comment-282209 The system should stop forcing people to take drugs that come with black box warnings about suicidality, that cause akathisia that often goes undiagnosed/untreated. Should stop diagnosing people with borderline personality disorder or other dx that destroy hope. Should stop dehumanizing and traumatizing patients in myriad ways. Should ban ECT. Should stop lying to people about 988 (see article by R. Wipond).

But the system won’t do any of this. It will continue to inflict harm on patients and then treat the predictable result as an enigma.

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By: Birdsong https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/ending-the-fear-driven-cycle-in-suicidal-care/#comment-282136 Fri, 31 May 2024 23:56:54 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256885#comment-282136 Therapists who keep clients in the dark about the awful things that can/will happen to them (involuntary hospitalization, forced drugging) if they admit to feeling suicidal are cruel and incompetent. Such a betrayal is devastating.

Not much will change until psychiatrists/therapists no longer have to fear being sued by a client’s family.

Bottom line: suicidal people shouldn’t be anywhere near someone who has the legal authority to lock them up.

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