Comments on: New Study Reveals Stagnant Depression Outcomes in Clinical Trials Over Time https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/new-study-reveals-stagnant-depression-outcomes-in-clinical-trials-over-time/ Science, Psychiatry & Social Justice Mon, 27 May 2024 18:11:15 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.3 By: Gil Rosenberg https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/new-study-reveals-stagnant-depression-outcomes-in-clinical-trials-over-time/#comment-281732 Mon, 27 May 2024 18:11:15 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256535#comment-281732 In reply to Topher.

With over 650 + types of psychological modalities and therapies it is obvious that psychology is a fraud that has no end. Typically these modalities are studied by psychologists and trumpet their benefits for self serving reason$.

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By: Rene https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/new-study-reveals-stagnant-depression-outcomes-in-clinical-trials-over-time/#comment-281547 Sat, 25 May 2024 09:18:37 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256535#comment-281547 Therapy is a scam.

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By: Steve McCrea https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/new-study-reveals-stagnant-depression-outcomes-in-clinical-trials-over-time/#comment-281291 Tue, 21 May 2024 21:24:39 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256535#comment-281291 In reply to Steve McCrea.

I think I just approved your post earlier this morning. It was just waiting for moderation.

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By: Steve McCrea https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/new-study-reveals-stagnant-depression-outcomes-in-clinical-trials-over-time/#comment-281285 Tue, 21 May 2024 20:08:28 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256535#comment-281285 In reply to Jane Reoch.

Posting as moderator

Please write me at portland17@msn.com with Amy such concerns. It can take up to a day for something to post, but things do inexplicably disappear from time to time. I don’t recall moderating any of your posts.

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By: Jane Reoch https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/new-study-reveals-stagnant-depression-outcomes-in-clinical-trials-over-time/#comment-281276 Tue, 21 May 2024 14:30:14 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256535#comment-281276 Am I, Jane Reoch, permitted to post a comment on any article on MAD.com? Lately, every comment that I write isn’t made public, nor is it made available for me to edit such as the one I just did a few minutes ago. The comment disappeared regarding the lawsuit filed against the FDA for Post-SSRI Sexual Dysfunction.

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By: Jane Reoch https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/new-study-reveals-stagnant-depression-outcomes-in-clinical-trials-over-time/#comment-281275 Tue, 21 May 2024 14:18:08 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256535#comment-281275 As long as government agencies (FDA) see no harm and some benefit for a drug to be prescribed indefinitely, they will claim that there’s much more research and time
needed to determine if they should believe the people who have been harmed.
Here’s a link that will provide the lawsuit document dated May 20, 2024
regarding Post-SSRI Sexual Dysfunction (PPSD):

https://www.citizen.org/news/fda-sued-over-inaction-on-citizen-petition/?utm_campaign=wp_the_health_202&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_health202

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By: Birdsong https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/new-study-reveals-stagnant-depression-outcomes-in-clinical-trials-over-time/#comment-281153 Sun, 19 May 2024 07:46:00 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256535#comment-281153 In reply to Birdsong.

Psychotherapy for depression is like watching some corny old sitcom: still formulaic and contrived as hell after all these years.

IMHO.

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By: Birdsong https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/new-study-reveals-stagnant-depression-outcomes-in-clinical-trials-over-time/#comment-281151 Sun, 19 May 2024 07:16:52 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256535#comment-281151 In reply to Birdsong.

I get ZILCH out of talking to people on power trips. But hey, that’s just me.

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By: Someone Else https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/new-study-reveals-stagnant-depression-outcomes-in-clinical-trials-over-time/#comment-281086 Sat, 18 May 2024 01:45:48 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256535#comment-281086 In reply to Topher.

Nicely stated, Topher.

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By: Birdsong https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/new-study-reveals-stagnant-depression-outcomes-in-clinical-trials-over-time/#comment-281077 Fri, 17 May 2024 21:18:22 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256535#comment-281077 “Clinical” psychology is junk food for the intellect: all talk, no substance.

IMHO.

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By: Topher https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/new-study-reveals-stagnant-depression-outcomes-in-clinical-trials-over-time/#comment-281071 Fri, 17 May 2024 19:31:30 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256535#comment-281071 In reply to John Hoggett.

I also found that phrase very funny – I pictured Tom Cruise in minority report preventing negative thoughts before they occurred.

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By: John Hoggett https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/new-study-reveals-stagnant-depression-outcomes-in-clinical-trials-over-time/#comment-281056 Fri, 17 May 2024 14:31:59 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256535#comment-281056 ” advanced psychological treatments for depression,” you’re ‘avin a laugh ain’t ya. What advanced treatments?

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By: Topher https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/05/new-study-reveals-stagnant-depression-outcomes-in-clinical-trials-over-time/#comment-281054 Fri, 17 May 2024 13:05:41 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256535#comment-281054 William M Epstein’s three key books need to be mentioned here – the illusion of psychotherapy, psychotherapy as religion and psychotherapy and the social clinic in the united states, soothing fictions. Across these books he takes apart the best of the evidence base for psychotherapy and dismantles it on methodological grounds. In the process demonstrates none of it has any robust evidence supporting it and it can be harmful – he’s routinely ignored – some of his critique is as follows:

Publication Bias: Epstein highlights the prevalence of publication bias in psychotherapy research, where studies with positive outcomes are more likely to be published, leading to an incomplete and potentially biased understanding of the effectiveness of various therapeutic approaches.

Lack of Rigor: He criticizes the methodological rigor of many studies in the field, noting flaws such as small sample sizes, inadequate control groups, and reliance on self-report measures, which undermine the validity and generalizability of findings.

Inconsistent Definitions and Measures: Epstein points out the lack of consistency in how terms are defined and measured across studies, making it difficult to compare results or draw meaningful conclusions about the effectiveness of different therapeutic interventions.

Overemphasis on Quantitative Research: He suggests that the dominance of quantitative research in the field may overshadow qualitative insights and fail to capture the complexities of human experience and the therapeutic process.

Subjectivity of Diagnosis: Epstein argues that psychiatric diagnoses are often based on subjective interpretations of symptoms rather than objective criteria, leading to inconsistency and variability in diagnosis across clinicians.

Lack of Validity: He suggests that many psychiatric diagnoses lack validity, meaning they do not accurately represent distinct, biologically-based disorders. This undermines the scientific basis of psychotherapy research that relies on these diagnoses as a framework for understanding and treating mental health issues.

Reliability Concerns: Epstein raises concerns about the reliability of psychiatric diagnoses, noting that different clinicians may reach different diagnoses for the same individual. This inconsistency undermines the reliability of research findings based on these diagnoses.

Impact on Treatment Efficacy: The reliance on questionable psychiatric diagnoses may also affect the efficacy of psychotherapy treatments, as interventions based on flawed diagnostic frameworks may not effectively address the underlying issues experienced by individuals seeking therapy.

There are other critics – again mostly ignored by the field – its a house of cards, profitable and useful to power as it helps to obfuscate a range of cultural disorders, that are magically turned into personal disorders and therefore helps to maintain a toxic status quo.

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