Comments on: Dramatic Rise in Police Interventions on 988 Callers https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/ Science, Psychiatry & Social Justice Thu, 13 Jun 2024 12:58:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.3 By: Lucy https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-283160 Thu, 13 Jun 2024 12:58:53 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-283160 In reply to Bill Bradford.

Hi Bill, just want to tell you how much I feel for you. The swat scenario you describe brought back visceral memories from 17 years ago. It wasn’t political, it was a Mica Miller scheme to steal an inheritance – I felt like I was being forced into diagnosis. I was blacklisted from my career, across states as I tried to distance myself from the family but one thing I want to tell you – it’s not a red/blue thing, it’s about the green.
My sincere condolences for your experience of torture and injustice. There but for the grace go we all.

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By: Bill Bradford https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-283078 Wed, 12 Jun 2024 15:24:17 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-283078 In reply to KateL.

“BAD HELP IS WORSE THAN NO HELP AT ALL”, has been one of my mottos since I escaped psychiatry and the local “community mental health center” in 1996….
Melpomene, KateL, & Lucy SPEAK TRUTH….

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By: Bill Bradford https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-283077 Wed, 12 Jun 2024 15:20:55 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-283077 In reply to Rob Wipond.

On Sept. 22, 1998, two employees of the local “Community Mental Health Center” called the local police, LIED, and claimed that I was suicidal. The Police used that lie as an excuse to mount an almost-literal POLICE RIOT at my apartment, including an officer with a shotgun pointed at my window standing behind a tree in the yard. I was forced to open my door to keep them from breaking it down. I was dragged in handcuffs to the local hospital ER, where they tried to force me to meet with some “emergency services” worker, and to admit that I was suicidal. I was NOT suicidal, so the cops then took me to the Police Station, arrested me for a specious criminal charge, and held me for $500. CASH BAIL…. 6 months later, at trial, the Police Prosecutor dropped the charges, because they weren’t even legal charges in the first place! Trust me, that’s just the tip of the iceberg of the bad behaviou that is daily inflicted on disabled persons…..
Know any good lawyers licensed in the State of N.H.?….
Yes, I realize that “good lawyers” is most often an oxymoron….

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By: Bill Bradford https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-283074 Wed, 12 Jun 2024 15:10:13 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-283074 In reply to Maureen Spano.

DUH! OF COURSE it’s all about $$$$….and power & control…..lol
It’s what the Social Justice Warriors of the Democrat Party **DO***, it’s WHO THEY ARE….Raise taxes, bigger Government, more $$$ & power for them….

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By: No-one https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-282902 Mon, 10 Jun 2024 22:05:44 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-282902 Good cop: bad cop: sweat enough beneath him, touch him but you cannot reach him, see the sea, breath the air, inhale the breeze, from my surf, my waves from Jesus: don’t be a good cop, bad cop, and break up with the nature, soon to divorce her, imitate and prey on her, just to flee into the darkness of the night and we can’t trace you. It’s infinite blackness that echoes infinitely through itself to no-one. I am that pitch black, less then one. We are no-one. Bliss. Night.

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By: boans https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-282674 Fri, 07 Jun 2024 13:41:00 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-282674 In reply to Lucy.

Never heard it called that Lucy…. SWATing. I like it.

I know there are legal protections from ‘mental health workers’ in our Criminal Code which carry a 3 year prison term for unlawful procurement of a person…. but its window dressing. In all the years it has existed there have been 2 charges laid, and zero convictions…. so it’s a license to kidnap if your an Authorised Mental Health Practitioner.

Add to this that with the LIE the AMHP tell to police (claiming a citizen as their “Outpatient”), they can induce an “acute stress reaction”…… and well, in my instance I had been ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs (benzodiazepines) before the acute stress reaction was induced. By having police think they are assisting with an “Outpatient”, the AMHP can create the false belief in his/her collegaues that they were requested to do an assessment for police….. thus fabricating a “referral source”. It’s quite a clever means of committing offences. The AMHP calls police for assistance, has them force the citizen into an interrogation, forge the Forms, and have Police deliver your victim to the hospital where it looks like Police have requested assessment from AMHP ….. the perfect crime.

The two DO NOTs of an “acute stress reaction” are (a) Do Not force the person to talk, and (b) do not administer benzodiazepines. Now I’m going to assume that these ‘professionals’ were aware that this was the case and well, basically they’ve found a method to torture people and not be held to account. It fits the definition in Article 1 of the Convention against the use of Torture (which I know the US has not ratified)

Don’t wish to talk about your problems? Okay, that justifies you being ‘spiked’ with date rape drugs and then have a pistol put to your head to make you talk…… now were getting somewhere with your ‘treatment’ you don’t want or need.

Drugging people without their knowledge is also a crime, and particularly when two people get together and plan to do it in order to commit other serious offences but …. once you’ve enlisted the Police to materially support you in your crimes, well, they’ll look the other way while a doctor ….. some of them do have the stomach for it…..

All very ugly of course and the amount of hypocrites I’ve met as a result. I’m sure they mean well when they boast about how they’re advocates for the mentally ill and ….. will promptly look the other way while the State viciously assaults people for complaining.

Still, the fact is I gained a knowledge of the mental health codes….. a request for an “acute stress reaction” by police is code for torture them because they likely won’t talk. “Regular medications” are what they administer without your knowledge to ‘enhance’ the effects of those “acute stress reactions”, and obtain your ‘compliance’. And I find it fascinating that Australia calls this torture when it’s done in Ghana (see complaints to the UN) but call it ‘we’ll fuking destroy you and your family if you try and complain about us and we’ve got police helping’.

Oh, and “editing” of medical records…….that really concerned me because we have euthanasia laws and if they can “edit” those legal narratives in the same manner, we have a real problem. But like the 988 people, they need to create a false belief that they’re good guys despite the odd ‘unintended negative outcome’ (this being a euphemism which came out of our largest facility when a number of people had their necks broken and died as a result of restraints) I assume the facilites elsewhere employ thugs that like to practice their ‘techniques’ on the ‘patients’?

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By: boans https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-282673 Fri, 07 Jun 2024 13:12:25 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-282673 In reply to Rob Wipond.

I’ve quoted this elsewhere but repost here because I believe it relates to your question Mr Wipond.

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.”
― Albert Camus

I do believe that these people are gradually losing their minds, thinking that it’s just a matter of earlier and earlier interventions. And once caught on that Hamster Wheel it’s nigh on impossible to get off.

It’s about to get interesting where I live. As a result of a shooting the premier wishes to make it mandatory for ‘medical staff’ to report suspected potential violence to Police….. and ‘interventions’ will follow. Precrime, despite the ‘medical staff’ pointing out the fact they’re no better than anyone else at predicting the future…. but they have been misleading the public about their ‘magic powers’ …. our Chief Psychiatrist accepting that a nurse can read minds and travel trough time and space.

Who would have thought the State would be providing a means to destroy peoples lives with a phone call? Hello? Einsattsgruppen? I’ve got a suspected Jew living next door to me……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9UQKBUrsg&t=2s

And there are some “concerning aspects” to this ‘help’ being provided to this man….. concerning that the media published it before the State could cover it all up. Though I do note the man was placed in an induced coma while they “edited” the legal narrative.

Look forward to reading part 2.

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By: Lucy https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-282606 Thu, 06 Jun 2024 16:47:15 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-282606 In reply to KateL.

These stories break my heart – when it happened to me 2007, it was a smear campaign to steal an inheritance, and I knew it at the time. But I’m still affected in ways that are like being crippled.

I’ve asked Rob about an article exposing the experiences of those who’ve been swatted, detained because of a third party report. He would he said, if he could find people who would go on record. I definitely would, it’s a burning need for me.

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By: KateL https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-282568 Thu, 06 Jun 2024 01:51:01 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-282568 In reply to Melpomene.

Melpomene,

It is so devastating to hear what you’ve been through in this system, knowing that experiences like yours and mine are not at all rare. It seems as though our big mistake was ever putting any trust in the system and acknowledging that we were in emotional pain.

I’m so sorry for the losses you’ve experienced, and that it’s still so unsafe for you (and I, and so many others) to express ourselves and the truth of how we feel.

I get comfort from hearing from others who feel the same, but I so wish that we could support each other in “real life”, as they say.

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By: Maureen Spano https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-282514 Wed, 05 Jun 2024 04:51:05 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-282514 In reply to Birdsong.

I would have to wonder if the more people that are referred (coerced), equals more funding for call centers.

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By: Rob Wipond https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-282497 Tue, 04 Jun 2024 21:33:45 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-282497 In reply to Daniel Rowan.

Daniel, that’s a shocking and disturbing story. I agree–you would think they would release the number and the police could prosecute. If you might like to collaborate on trying to delve into this more, drop me an email or contact me through my website.

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By: Birdsong https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-282496 Tue, 04 Jun 2024 21:28:18 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-282496 The mental health ‘experts’ have made expressing frustration, despair and hopelessness practically illegal.

Which is all that saying, “I wish my life were over” really means.

The ‘mental health’ system is run by idiots.

IMHO.

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By: Melpomene https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-282480 Tue, 04 Jun 2024 17:42:52 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-282480 ]]> In reply to KateL.

We have a lot in common. My mental and physical collapse happened 30 years ago and I had a very full life as an artist and working wife and mother. I fought hard to get my life back and put myself in the hands of a highly respected psychiatrist at Mass General. I underwent 12 ect treatments, both types – side to side and back to front. This left me with profound memory loss and further loss of my ability to function. In frustration over not being able to express my anger and despair, I became a “cutter”. Bleeding was my way of letting out my pent-up feelings. I was not suicidal and never cut myself so badly it would be life-threatening. That earned me the Borderline Personality diagnosis. And more anger and frustration. Mild depression became severe treatment resistant major depressive disorder. Over the years I accumulated PTSD, General Anxiety disorder, fibromyalgia and several phobias – the most disabling of which keeps me homebound. I blame several of these on my supposed treatment and multiple hospitalizations.
I have lost my mother, two brothers and my husband to suicide. Of COURSE I feel suicidal sometimes, but not actively. I hold it as a future option if things become more unbearable. But do I talk about this? What do you think?! ❤️

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By: Damink https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-282474 Tue, 04 Jun 2024 16:18:21 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-282474 Rob i totaly agree with you’re point of view GREAT WORK KEEP GOING

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By: Birdsong https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-282433 Tue, 04 Jun 2024 07:23:19 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-282433 In reply to Melpomene.

I get it, too Melpomene. The fear never completely goes away, and it happened to me only once decades ago. I’ll never understand the rationale behind it.

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By: Someone Else https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-282411 Tue, 04 Jun 2024 00:16:15 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-282411 Thank you, Rob, for your truthful – albeit re: a sad state of affairs – reporting. It’s so frustrating to know the truth about the iatrogenic nature of the so called “serious mental illnesses,” yet those industries only respond by trying to make things worse, due to their desire to “maintain the status quo.” A “status quo” that no sane and decent person should want to maintain.

https://archive.org/details/pedophila-empire-satan-sodomy-the-deep-state-ch-1-25-joachim-hagopian.epub/Pedophila%20%26%20Empire%3B%20Satan%2C%20Sodomy%2C%20%26%20the%20Deep%20State%20ch%201-25%20-%20Joachim%20Hagopian.epub/

Thank you also, for writing your last book. I bought it, but still need to finish reading it. Although, I’ve already experienced all three aspects of the “mental health” industries’ systemic crimes, so probably none of it will be a surprise to me … however, it is very important information to be disseminated … so many thanks for writing it, Rob.

https://www.amazon.com/Your-Consent-Not-Required-Guardianships-ebook/dp/B09YR1RQLJ

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By: Rosalee D https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-282405 Mon, 03 Jun 2024 23:22:43 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-282405 Thanks Rob for doing such commendable and important investigative work. It’s telling they refuse to release data and don’t respond to requests for interviews etc. Until someone gets ensnared by the hypocrisy of the mental health ‘care’ system they don’t know how much harm they can be subjected to. It can even be a third party with ill intentions that calls these ‘help’ lines to make up fabrications about someone else and cause lasting harms.

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By: Melanie https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-282394 Mon, 03 Jun 2024 21:08:11 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-282394 As a mental health consumer with suicidal ideation (currently in treatment) this is especially concerning. If it is further publicized it may actually be a *deterrent* to people calling for support. If they are experiencing ideation but not plans, the possibility of hospitalization (incarceration!) against their will may keep them from accessing necessary support in order to work through their crisis. Thank you for your advocacy on our behalf, and please continue to get the word out. This process needs to be corrected, and quick! Best regards.

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By: KateL https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-282391 Mon, 03 Jun 2024 19:34:56 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-282391 In reply to Melpomene.

Melpomene,

I really get that. I also have had many forced hospitalizations, many of which happened in the 5 years or so following ECT. After ECT, when I was suffering from unacknowledged cognitive impairment, I received a borderline personality dx and was put on an ever-changing series of psych drug “cocktails” (always including anti-psychotics). I know now that I was suffering from psych drug induced akathisia, but the symptoms of this condition were always blamed on my “mental illness” and “poor coping skills”.

The forced “interventions” almost always involved police and were both humiliating and traumatic. I felt that the goal was to “teach me a lesson”, not to help me.

I have the same problem now of not being able to trust. People talk about “getting help” and almost never acknowledge that the “help” is often actually just more layers of trauma, leading to hopelessness and isolation.

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By: Lucy https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/06/dramatic-rise-in-police-interventions-on-988-callers/#comment-282384 Mon, 03 Jun 2024 18:23:29 +0000 https://www.madinamerica.com/?p=256864#comment-282384 In reply to Daniel Rowan.

Thanks for putting that out there. SWATting is a crime, making a false report to police. The aggressive police behavior is harassment. Of course the law wants you and your story to go away. I wish I knew a lawyer who would help targets of swatting.

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